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    Quote Originally Posted by yoyo8346 View Post
    How does being a student reinforce the American dream? You haven't even started a career. Are you debt-free? Did you get a scholarship?

    Also, I don't quite understand the "farmer to insurance" part. What do you mean?
    The American dream is defined as the ideal that every US citizen should have an equal opportunity to achieve success and prosperity through hard work, determination, and initiative. Me being a student reinforces that notion simply because I was born into a low in-come family as a simply farmer boy. We had nothing to our name but an RV and moved around the country working on farms. My family gave up, but I didn't. I went to school and graduated two years earlier then I was supposed to. On top of that, I can't start my career at 18 because the career I am looking to begin requires you to have a degree. (I want to be a professor of history). I am 100% debt free. I got multiple scholarships from private companies and individuals willing to donate their money, not from the government, through I could've applied for such.

    The "farm to Insurance" part was point out how I was born at a very low economic and educational standpoint, but I worked my way up to where I am today. I had the dedication and drive to achieve and I did it
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    Your story is a testament to your hard work and I commend you for it. However, the definition you just cited is different from what you said before. There's a big difference between "everyone should have equal opportunity" and "everyone does have equal opportunity".

    Quote Originally Posted by Erwin View Post
    Literally anyone can become rich if you have the drive and dedication to follow it through.
    You are turning your back on 14.5% of the US population with that statement (the amount of people living below the poverty line last year). "Looks like 45 million people are lazy, oh well, they don't deserve a decent life anyway". <-- This is what your notion of the American Dream amounts to in a modern context.

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    Erwin, do you think you have a valid economic theory just because of an anecdote? Of course there are going to people who find success in any scenario. The reality is that the US has massive income inequality, relatively low social mobility, an extremely inefficient education system that affords some people far more opportunity than others, and an absolutely abysmal health system in comparison to other nations that are as developed as we are.

    You say that the US is number 1 in wealthiest people. That means diddly squat. You also insist that anyone can be successful with shear determination. While there might be some validity to this, it isn't a recipe for a successful society. Furthermore, major success due to "determination" usually also involves a lot of luck and opportunity. I would recommend Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell for more on this.

    You mention that the US is 44th in health care as though it's not that bad. How can you possibly be content with that? Why should we be satisfied with such an awful status quo when we can change it by taking queues from other countries that have managed to? Oh right, "those are small countries, so they can have a good health system, but we can't"... oh wait, that's just a myth that's perpetuated by conservative commentators.

    I could go on and on addressing your arguments, but it would take a lot of time and I doubt you would be convinced. All I can say is that you've clearly drunk the kool aid that people like the Koch brothers want you to drink in order to sustain the system that lets them grow immeasurably wealthy while leaving other communities in the dust, without health care, uneducated, etc.

    Good luck with your degree (not being sarcastic). I think that in the course of pursuing it you might find that some of your ideas are not consistent with historical realities.
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    Trump increases defense spending because "America is world police".
    Trump is anti-globalist.
    logic.

    He ramped up military an homeland spending because it makes voters feel safe and its easy to politically defend the forces. Looks like hes a politician like the rest after all.
    So much for draining the swamp.

    I think from now on you should have to personally pay firefighters to put out your house and cops to investigate break-ins to your home. After all, why should your tax dollars save someone else's home?
    I honestly don't see how people can see universal healthcare as a bad thing for a country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conway View Post
    Trump increases defense spending because "America is world police".
    Trump is anti-globalist.
    logic.

    He ramped up military an homeland spending because it makes voters feel safe and its easy to politically defend the forces. Looks like hes a politician like the rest after all.
    So much for draining the swamp.

    I think from now on you should have to personally pay firefighters to put out your house and cops to investigate break-ins to your home. After all, why should your tax dollars save someone else's home?
    I honestly don't see how people can see universal healthcare as a bad thing for a country.
    During his campaign he always talked about increasing the US military budget
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saris View Post
    During his campaign he always talked about increasing the US military budget
    Yes, but for what reason? Is the U.S under an imminent external threat at home? Did I miss something in the news?
    It doesn't make sense to increase spending like that unless you plan on fighting an offensive war somewhere, seeing the U.S military is already more then equipped to maintain is dominance and expand it.
    He seems to be taking the "problems at home" stance from what I've gathered but instead he cuts most of the departments that help citizens and placed it into the military, which was doing its job at protecting the homeland fine without an extra 52 billion USD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conway View Post
    Yes, but for what reason?...
    Probably because every other country in the world expects the U.S. of A. to come running to their aid and fight their battles for them? So we have to be fully prepared to step in and provide what other's don't seem to be able.

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    I find it amusing that the people who are posting the most anti-trump and anti-American posts are foreigners but I forgive them because they have been programed through their school systems and media to fight for social justice and think everyone's a victim aka socialism. I don't understand the whole anti-family(abortion, easy-divorce, gay marriage), anti-culture(anti-America, Globalist), anti-morality( via media porn, and numerous deviances but to each his own. People aren't equal and nor should they be and the world is Very unfair but at least in America it's a little better than most other countries. A lot of people suffered horrendously under communism and socialism when they tried to make people equal, fair and society just...

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Bell Hood View Post
    I find it amusing that the people who are posting the most anti-trump and anti-American posts are foreigners but I forgive them because they have been programed through their school systems and media to fight for social justice and think everyone's a victim aka socialism. I don't understand the whole anti-family(abortion, easy-divorce, gay marriage), anti-culture(anti-America, Globalist), anti-morality( via media porn, and numerous deviances but to each his own. People aren't equal and nor should they be and the world is Very unfair but at least in America it's a little better than most other countries. A lot of people suffered horrendously under communism and socialism when they tried to make people equal, fair and society just...
    Yes. Everyone who disagrees with you is anti-American, everyone who isn't fiscally conservative is a socialist/communist, and everyone who isn't socially conservative is a deviant. Be careful there, you've taken so many red pills, you just might overdose.
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