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Diversey
03-30-2016, 02:58 PM
I've just seen glory for around the 10th time, in my opinion it's one of the best movies, up there with "gettysburg"
I just wanted to know your opinion on the movie and the historical accuracy of it.

Locke1740
03-30-2016, 03:01 PM
I didnt really like the fake characters being added like the Major but i really enjoyed how it was based on Robert Gould Shaw's letters. And i liked the rebel yell given to my Charleston men. In all i would give a 9.5/10, still a great movie though loved the Sgt. Mjr.s lines

Hatchmo
03-30-2016, 08:10 PM
There is also a part in the movie where you see a child waving with a digital wrist watch on.

thomas aagaard
03-30-2016, 09:58 PM
A great movie no question about that.

Here is a topic on another forum where a Reenactor tell about his experience with the production of the movie.
He trained the extras that made up the color company that all the soldiers that are main characters are part of.
http://civilwartalk.com/threads/twenty-five-years-ago-my-brush-with-glory.95319/#post-803868

(the white officer in the background)
http://civilwartalk.com/attachments/cap008-jpg.30992/

It give some very interesting background information about why the movie is as it is and it explain some of the mistakes.


Just to mention some:
The fort is on the wrong end of the island. So when they attack the fort, the water should be to the other side.
Some of the extras have rather bad equipment...
The scene where the soldiers get their enfields is wrong... Modern replicas got serial numbers... the originals did not.
Problems with extras...


Other mistakes is not mentioned... like wrong orders
"Shaw" use both the order "Fire at will" that don't exist in the drill books.
And "reload".. the correct order is "Load"

Locke1740
03-30-2016, 10:10 PM
Yea I forgot to mention Battery Wagner being on the wrong side of Morris Island, kind of a big part of the battle, you know

thomas aagaard
03-30-2016, 10:12 PM
The mentioned forum topic give a rather good explanation on why this is the case.

A. P. Hill
03-30-2016, 10:52 PM
Yea I forgot to mention Battery Wagner being on the wrong side of Morris Island, kind of a big part of the battle, you know

It's called "creative license". Chances are the movie crew couldn't get to use the real battery, so they had to make one up.

And as long as we're talking about not using 'real' objects in movies .... Back in 1991 there was a television movie aired called IRONCLADS. (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102129/?ref_=ttmd_md_nm) The sound stage was in a local warehouse in Richmond VA where I was living at the time. I made it to the sound stage after the filming and walked on the gun decks of both the Merrimack and the Monitor. I have some 35mm pictures of that adventure around here somewhere. The battle of the ships in the Roads was actually scale models filmed in England if I remember right. But all the gun deck shots were filmed on a soundstage in a Richmond warehouse. And I was there. :)

The captain of the Monitor Andy Park, was a local TV news anchor who auditioned for the part and got it.

TrustyJam
03-30-2016, 10:53 PM
I like the movie. Not a huge fan of the dude portraying Shaw though - his acting seems somewhat forced to me.

- Trusty

Locke1740
03-30-2016, 11:48 PM
It's called "creative license". Chances are the movie crew couldn't get to use the real battery, so they had to make one up.

And as long as we're talking about not using 'real' objects in movies .... Back in 1991 there was a television movie aired called IRONCLADS. (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102129/?ref_=ttmd_md_nm) The sound stage was in a local warehouse in Richmond VA where I was living at the time. I made it to the sound stage after the filming and walked on the gun decks of both the Merrimack and the Monitor. I have some 35mm pictures of that adventure around here somewhere. The battle of the ships in the Roads was actually scale models filmed in England if I remember right. But all the gun deck shots were filmed on a soundstage in a Richmond warehouse. And I was there. :)

The captain of the Monitor Andy Park, was a local TV news anchor who auditioned for the part and got it.

I know about their creativity, they couldn't use the actual battery because it washed away over time and the land that it did sit on is now underwater

thomas aagaard
03-31-2016, 12:49 AM
The location today... nothing there.
https://www.google.dk/maps/place/Fort+Wagner,+Charleston,+SC+29412,+USA/@32.7275005,-79.8766578,1088m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x88fe771d0d0afa33:0xb82a1 b720546eef8

It was made on the south part of Jekyll Island in Georgia...




I like the movie. Not a huge fan of the dude portraying Shaw though - his acting seems somewhat forced to me.

- Trusty

Looks is not that fare off:

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TrustyJam
03-31-2016, 01:00 AM
The location today... nothing there.
https://www.google.dk/maps/place/Fort+Wagner,+Charleston,+SC+29412,+USA/@32.7275005,-79.8766578,1088m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x88fe771d0d0afa33:0xb82a1 b720546eef8

It was made on the south part of Jekyll Island in Georgia...





Looks is not that fare off:

2632

Yeah, I imagine that played a huge part in the audioning. :p

- Trusty

David Dire
03-31-2016, 01:19 AM
I like the movie. Not a huge fan of the dude portraying Shaw though - his acting seems somewhat forced to me.

- Trusty

Really? I thought he was pretty good for the role.

Anyways, Glory's probably my second or third favourite civil war movie.
The only thing I wished there was a bit more of was volleys/casualties. Or, atleast, seeing them. Really shows the brutality of line battles and napoleonic-style warfare.

Something like the volleys in the patriot, I mean.

https://youtu.be/-PZQvMY_XlQ?t=7