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    Articles of War

    Gentlemen,

    The UCMJ, Uniformed Code of Military Justice, that is practiced by the United States Military today did not exist in its current form. For those who may be unaware there were the "Articles of War". We are not in the actual military and not bound by any of it...nor should we be. But I am sure that most of you will agree that if we are to portray certain historical units, we should do so with honor and integrity. In a way that would make the unit look good.

    The question I pose to all of you: Does this not apply to our conduct when we represent Officer and NCO ranks as well? Is there not some sort of moral duty to attempt to conduct ourselves as such? The measure of a man is not done by the amount of words he speaks or writes but by his actual conduct on a daily basis. This goes back to my topic a few weeks ago about how we treat newcomers...or the apposing side. Thoughts?

    "Art. 83. Any commissioned officer convicted before a general courts-martial of conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman, shall be dismissed from the service."

    http://suvcw.org/education/documents/articles.htm

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    Yes and No
    The problems we encounter are ...
    Different people have Different definitions of Conduct Unbecoming.
    Different Companies have Different ideas on what Punishments are Appropriate for different Offenses.
    (One might Demote while another Expel, for example.)

    I like the concept and hope we see many use the information you provided to improve their Leaders.
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    I think if we all showed each other respect and dignity the half our problems would be over. Now, in terms of formalities in game regarding NCO's and Officers I would say that since at the moment anyone can spawn as either without any abilities of either I believe they should be kept at a minimum or to players discretion. Now when at an event or in the future with private servers, I imagine it will be in event and unit codes of conduct. For public events I try to extend the proper formalities so long as they don't hinder or endanger the mission. My two cents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lance Rawlings View Post
    I think if we all showed each other respect and dignity the half our problems would be over.
    That's a stupid idea and you should feel dumb for thinking of it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dman979 View Post
    That's a stupid idea and you should feel dumb for thinking of it.


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    LOL!!! How dare he!

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    Quote Originally Posted by F. L. Villarreal View Post
    Gentlemen,

    The UCMJ, Uniformed Code of Military Justice, that is practiced by the United States Military today did not exist in its current form. For those who may be unaware there were the "Articles of War". We are not in the actual military and not bound by any of it...nor should we be. But I am sure that most of you will agree that if we are to portray certain historical units, we should do so with honor and integrity. In a way that would make the unit look good.

    The question I pose to all of you: Does this not apply to our conduct when we represent Officer and NCO ranks as well? Is there not some sort of moral duty to attempt to conduct ourselves as such? The measure of a man is not done by the amount of words he speaks or writes but by his actual conduct on a daily basis. This goes back to my topic a few weeks ago about how we treat newcomers...or the apposing side. Thoughts?

    "Art. 83. Any commissioned officer convicted before a general courts-martial of conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman, shall be dismissed from the service."

    http://suvcw.org/education/documents/articles.htm
    I am very confused by your question.. are we to go by, in your estimation, the northern view ,,,, of Sherman grant and hunter, Fremont and sheridain or Lee' s view?
    All governments, everywhere derived its power by the consent of the people. The government you have is by your own consent. Not by those brave grey dead of one hundred and fifty plus years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dether View Post
    I am very confused by your question.. are we to go by, in your estimation, the northern view ,,,, of Sherman grant and hunter, Fremont and sheridain or Lee' s view?
    Good Afternoon,

    Conduct unbecoming has a very broad definition but the understanding is that officers are to conduct themselves a certain way. This is across the board. Most of the confederate leadership were West Pointers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F. L. Villarreal View Post
    Good Afternoon,

    Conduct unbecoming has a very broad definition but the understanding is that officers are to conduct themselves a certain way. This is across the board. Most of the confederate leadership were West Pointers.
    ok,, so we will go by Lee's view and true west pointers and not the victors view.. this I understand and agree.
    All governments, everywhere derived its power by the consent of the people. The government you have is by your own consent. Not by those brave grey dead of one hundred and fifty plus years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dether View Post
    ok,, so we will go by Lee's view and true west pointers and not the victors view.. this I understand and agree.
    The conduct of a gentleman is not view based my friend. It is a prudent thing.

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