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    I love this idea!

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    Adding on to this, I'd like to see inactive players deleted, as well. Whole lot of ghosts around here.
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    We will have a look at your suggestions. I will discuss it with Fancy later on

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    I think it would be an ideal time to empty out those regiments too. Remove groups that have not seen their C/O log in for more than three months? Maybe Fancy could offer some statistical insight in to how the company tool is currently being used?

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    i am finally glad this is gaining some traction i always felt it really hurt the small and starting companies the most cause what i think happens alot is new people join the co they really want to and see that there is like 75 people on the company tool and yet they get in game and they cant find anyone in the company to play with, then when they are in game they see all these large companies and regiments and say what the hell i will just join them

    as part of the largest csa group of people i see this every day 1st Ga or 6La prob get the lions share of new players cause they are most active and the little co that do play some cant get anyone to join i really hope Hinkle you guys make some changes to the company tool to reflect only co that have been active for lets say at least 2months hell if the company co doesnt login with in a month i say make that company inactive they can always change it latter
    please consider these changes that people have suggested i think it will really help new players

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    Just my spitballing ideas, with some pros and cons,

    1. Only 'Captain' pledges or higher should be allowed to start up a company (for now) and companies owned by non-Captains should be re-set. This means the end of "franchises," which franchise owners with their multiple accounts will not be happy about, but it also means the end of paper companies being owned by ten burner e-mail accounts. Several legendary regiments (not just companies, but basically entire regiments) are taken by squatters. I was so disappointed when I first got War of Rights and realized that there is no 69th NY, there is no 15th South Carolina, there is no 11th Mississippi, etc.

    2. Captains of companies should be able to view the pledge-level of people volunteering for their company or the company should have a setting which disallows anyone from volunteering below a certain pledge level (and that setting should be public). I've had to discharge five or six people from my company after waiting two weeks because they 'volunteer' but disregard the stated rules that volunteers must have Alpha access. I wish my company was explicitly labeled an ALPHA ACCESS company.

    3. Some sort of data should be displayed in a very public way which notes the last time the owner of the company has logged on, the percentage of players whom have logged on recently, or something like that. If Company Tool were tied to our Steam account, that'd be amazing... but I realize this may not be possible.

    4. This doesn't affect me personally, but I think a lot of people would like to have their player's Company Tool history totally reset. A lot of guys have "cowardly deserted" several times in search of an active company.

    5. Battalion support?

    Quote Originally Posted by sal_tuskin View Post
    1st Ga or 6La prob get the lions share of new players cause they are most active and the little co that do play some cant get anyone to join
    I think this is one reason why we haven't had any new, upstart companies join the II Corps in the 9 mo.'s I've been here—many upstart companies may see it as counterproductive for their own growth and sustainability. Even I have had trouble. People I've recruited, who mean to enlist with me, instinctively enlist with the bigger companies within the "franchise" because all of the companies are owned by the same name and because the big, mostly paper, companies show up on the list first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hinkel View Post
    We will have a look at your suggestions. I will discuss it with Fancy later on
    Thank you Hinkel for not only listening, but for talking to the team about it. You know and I know it's time to fix this and the community appreciates the step forward with it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Leifr View Post
    I think it would be an ideal time to empty out those regiments too. Remove groups that have not seen their C/O log in for more than three months? Maybe Fancy could offer some statistical insight in to how the company tool is currently being used?
    I was thinking 2 months on the login with the understanding that once people log back in, they are instantly active. We have to be careful though to make sure company leaders aren't just logging in every 1.5 months just to stay active. We need KNOW that they're active in order for their company to not get greyed out and stay that way until they can show more activity. I know Fancy is the Company Tool expert and I'm happy to speak with him on my ideas to help see this through.

    Quote Originally Posted by sal_tuskin View Post
    i am finally glad this is gaining some traction i always felt it really hurt the small and starting companies the most cause what i think happens alot is new people join the co they really want to and see that there is like 75 people on the company tool and yet they get in game and they cant find anyone in the company to play with, then when they are in game they see all these large companies and regiments and say what the hell i will just join them

    as part of the largest csa group of people i see this every day 1st Ga or 6La prob get the lions share of new players cause they are most active and the little co that do play some cant get anyone to join i really hope Hinkle you guys make some changes to the company tool to reflect only co that have been active for lets say at least 2months hell if the company co doesnt login with in a month i say make that company inactive they can always change it latter
    please consider these changes that people have suggested i think it will really help new players
    Thanks for the support and ideas Sal. Any veteran of the game like yourself can see how this makes sense, and how it's hurting the community NOT to fix it. I'm glad we're making headway.

    Just to provide a graphical representation of what Company Tool looks like right now to incoming players on the Union side, versus the actual active companies I have these graphics that were prepared by Major Tyler. The ones that are crossed out are obviously the inactive companies.

    What players see now when they look at prospective companies to join.




    What they're not seeing is that the ones that are inactive are not delineated at all.


    Now if these companies DO get disbanded, then of course they wouldn't show up and that would significantly alter the list.

    I do have suggestions if disbanding the inactive companies begins to take place.

    1) Members are notified via email that the company they were part of has now been disbanded due to inactivity.
    2) They are notified that Company Tool will now function differently so that they can rejoin another company with renewed confidence and high-probability that it will be an active company.

    This can potentially bring a lot of players back into the game who have since stopped playing for reasons of their company they committed to being inactive.

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    Excellent illustration of the situation on both sides, Shiloh. Thanks.
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    See I can already see this pissing off some commanders, you have 1st Massachusetts cavalry crossed off but they are active and I've talked to one of their officers, sure their number in CT doesn't represent their true active number but still 4-5 of them play once a month, maybe checking with them first instead of writing them off right away will be the best approach, again lot of time and coordination getting in contact with them as I have been doing. I don't think Thomas Bates would be happy seeing his New York Battery disbanded after he just took over for the previous commander, again they only have like 3 active guys maybe once a month in game but the fact is that their still there as for the others crossed off from what I can see is fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rbsmith7 View Post
    Excellent illustration of the situation on both sides, Shiloh. Thanks.
    Thank you rbsmith and you brought up some interesting points to discuss as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Warboy View Post
    See I can already see this pissing off some commanders, you have 1st Massachusetts cavalry crossed off but they are active and I've talked to one of their officers, sure their number in CT doesn't represent their true active number but still 4-5 of them play once a month, maybe checking with them first instead of writing them off right away will be the best approach, again lot of time and coordination getting in contact with them as I have been doing. I don't think Thomas Bates would be happy seeing his New York Battery disbanded after he just took over for the previous commander, again they only have like 3 active guys maybe once a month in game but the fact is that their still there as for the others crossed off from what I can see is fine.
    Whether we crossed off or didn't cross off the correct companies here is not the point and my apologies if active companies in this example were crossed off. This was meant purely as an example and when you look at it graphically, it really hits home. The point is if they're logging into Company Tool and being active there, they will not or should not be disbanded. If people are logging in and not being active at all just to keep their company active then that is a problem.

    To your point of "checking in" maybe an email can be sent out saying all inactive companies will be disbanded and defining what that looks like so that everyone is clear as to what "inactive" means.
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